tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875431975286401206.post7605359198380368004..comments2023-07-18T17:57:10.845+02:00Comments on Polar Bear's palaver: Carefully optimisticPolar_Bearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14247101213248338985noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875431975286401206.post-63091016021580316892011-10-11T08:13:18.115+02:002011-10-11T08:13:18.115+02:00I am not an expert in cheating in Live chess. I do...I am not an expert in cheating in Live chess. I don't play it much, because I can play such chess OTB. My primary goal is correspondence chess. It is a pity computer-free CC isn't played seriously, because it deserves that at least to the same degree as ICCF play.<br /><br />The first problem with chess.com: anonymity and easy registration help cheaters very much and it spoils community there. Community rewards cheating instead of punishing it and my efforts to create a core of true serious honest online players (via groups and tournaments) had little response. Simple explanation: chess.com is full of anonymous trolls, brats, cheats and snoopers, while real chess players aren't willing to play seriously online. For many there, the primary goal isn't chess, but social interaction online. For me it is a mystery why Erik has been content with such situation and allows such garbage to register, IMO it must backfire. No wonder chess.com is full of cheaters who register anonymously and immediately are allowed to play rated games and join tournaments. Thus I agree, short term planning is killing chess.com, unfortunately I don't know how could chess players help. Erik has already hired IM David Pruess, but the change in cheat detection's speed wasn't noticed. An experienced player can "smell" cheating and can give opinion, but it is not a proof without proper statistical analysis.<br /><br />I am sure both Alexander Horvath and Yelena Dembo are cheating bastards. Compared with pre-computer CC control group, they have been engine-positive as hell, far far above any possible fluctuation. They differ from ordinary cheaters in two things: they weren't anonymous teen-aged Rybka robots, they have been proud title-holders, thus they feel entitled to babble cheekily and slander chess.com.Polar_Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14247101213248338985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875431975286401206.post-36014434148374960042011-08-10T05:14:10.980+02:002011-08-10T05:14:10.980+02:00Hi Polar Bear,
Here is an interesting post on a c...Hi Polar Bear,<br /><br />Here is an interesting post on a chess site:<br /><br />http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=316476#post316476<br /><br />Let me tell you that chess.com's anti-cheating methods are far too slow in catching the cheats. But chess.com is basically Erik's business: he only does things which maximise profit short term. He should be hiring REAL players to catch the cheaters and think long term. Not just hire one statistician. In live chess there are plenty of smart cheaters (priapos23, ratsalad, lamestars) that avoid statistical detection by only using the engine in critical positions. priapos23 for example is already a good bullet player, but MAKES SURE that his blitz rating never drops to a low level, by using the engine in games where he is against other engines. Because he is probably a 2200 player, he uses it much better than some patzer. For example, once he is a rook up, say, he just goes back to human mode.<br />Chess.com is a joke. It has the potential to be the essential internet site. But short term planning is killing it. Erik just wants his quick buck now. Or else he would hire some strong chess players to police the cheats!<br /><br />As for Alexander Horvath, I have no idea whether he was cheating or not (did not examine the games), but they were dead right in the case of Yelena Dembo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875431975286401206.post-12299893486731657322011-08-04T19:41:12.889+02:002011-08-04T19:41:12.889+02:00Well Polar Bear, looks like you've got a lot o...Well Polar Bear, looks like you've got a lot of work to do clearing off all the cheaters from the ACTIVE list. I'm sure it's a task you're very happy to perform though. This is a wonderful time for chess.com. May the skulls continue to roll!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875431975286401206.post-12815538630204955052011-08-04T12:34:40.258+02:002011-08-04T12:34:40.258+02:00today must be a happy day in the palaver :ptoday must be a happy day in the palaver :pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com